Research Paper on Ravi Raju's Water Fuel cell
Replication
Stanley Allen Meyer
Panacea-BOCAF On-Line University Research Paper on Ravi's
Water Fuel Cell Voltrolysis Replication
Panacea-BOCAF On-Line
University
"Breakthrough In HHO Production"
I'm not here to argue whether things work as per
the preset laws of physics or thermodynamics but you need to keep an
open mind to evolve and see if something actually works. I'm an
engineer and been taught that things don't work if you break the
laws. Well I know my laws thank you. I've been making cells for the
last 8 years but now I've got something that works. If people want
to replicate it they can I'm giving out info on how to do it if they
don't want to fine by me! I'm getting nothing nor losing any thing
by this. Stan wanted to sell his units! well I'm not! This is for
the people who are already trying it out and who want to do
something about the environmental mess the world is in, its
accelerating by the year and it wouldn't be long before that the
powers be would realize that most of these changes are irreversible.
Vanishing Glaciers, melting polar caps, Europe has seen the hottest
summers in living memory and now Asia is going through the worst
floods in the living memory. We are heading for a disaster and have
already reached a point of no return with the fossil fuel addiction.
Its time we make ourselves count by Creating this togeter now! The
Internet is really accelerating this success beyond anyones ability
to stop it. |
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316L Stainless Cavitation Info
Surface modification of AISI 316 stainless steel using various forms of NiTi for enhancing cavitation erosion resistance. In this study, NiTi powder
was preplaced on the AISI 316L substrate and melted with a high-power CW Nd:YAG laser. With appropriate laser processing parameters, an alloyed layer of a few
hundred micrometers thick was formed and fusion bonded to the substrate without the formation of a brittle interface. EDS analysis showed that the layer
contained Fe as the major constituent element while the XRD patterns of the surface showed an austenitic structure, similar to that of 316 stainless steel. The
cavitation erosion resistance of the modified layer (316-NiTi-Laser) could reach about 29 times that of AISI 316L stainless steel. The improvement could be
attributed to a much higher surface hardness and elasticity as revealed by instrumented nanoindentation tests. Among various types of samples, the cavitation
erosion resistance was ranked in descending order as: NiTi plate > 316-NiTi-Laser> 316-NiTi-TIG >AISI 316L, where 316-NiTi-TIG stands for samples surfaced with
the tungsten inert gas (TIG) process using NiTi wire. Though the laser-surfaced samples and the TIG-surfaced samples had similar indentation properties, the
former exhibited a higher erosion resistance mainly because of a more homogeneous alloyed layer with much less defects. In both the laser-surfaced and TIG-
surfaced samples, the superelastic behavior typical of austenitic NiTi was only partially retained and the superior cavitation erosion resistance was thus still
not fully attained.
electrostatic excitation of covalent bond energetics causes the destructive catastrophic dissociation to occur! |
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 3] Helping others to
make this technology feasible and easy to replicate whatever small
contribution no matter how much ever small to improve the air we
breathe would go a long way for our children's future.
We need people to know this side of science before
it's too late. Look at the change in the environment in the
last 100 years in the garb of development were ruining the
world we live in for the future generations and we are shown
a picture of development as prosperity actual fact being more
the prosperity more we ruin the environment for our creature
comforts its a vicious cycle we could introduce the alternate
science atplaces where its hurting the environment the most
at least in a small way. End quote- Ravi Overview Replication
Faculty information Panacea Endorsed Supplier of cells and
components Supplies Related Links Related Ravi Technical discussion
Videos & Credits Overview
The following research
paper is the first document in a sequence of material which will be
used to create a complete course on pulsed DC resonant systems. This
course will be coming to the Panacea University site soon. This
research paper mean time intends only to out line the specific
replication criterion which is necessary to duplicate Ravi's
water fuel cell results. All related faculty information,
validation data and further details of the water fracture process
will be included in the complete course material expected to be
ready in late 2008. Ravi Raju is a registered open source engineer
with Panacea and has recently disclosed his WFC replication success.
Ravi's version is based on the old (now upgraded) Panacea university
"D14" plans. These plans originated from the disclosures and device
of open source engineer Dave Lawton.
Stanley Allen Meyer Page 3 Dave Lawton's success in
constructing a working VERSION of the Meyer WFC was
reported to produce gas at 3x the Faradic equivalent rate for the
power consumed. Dave, who spent much of his career at Britain's
Rutherford Labs (equiv. U.S. Lawrence Livermore) designing and
constructing instrumentation for high energy particle physics
research, is far from the average 'tinkerer'. Videos of his two WFC
units, one with an
employing
solid state
timing logic, was posted on YouTube and has since received over
50,000 hits. The cells operated at 12-13v/3-4a - averaging
approximately 57 watts of input power - producing gas aggressively
in distilled water with no added electrolyte. The difference between
Ravi's replication results and Dave's is that Ravi built a
bigger cell and conducted a gas flow meter test. This gas flow meter
test proved with out any doubt that he had some thing closely
related to Meyer's original process. Meyer's results reportedly
showed an out put which was up to 1700% above Faradays law of
electrolysis. Thus it is only logical to
assume that the pulsed DC resonant systems are not conventional
electrolysis. Nothing about
this process involved in the Water Fuel Cell resembles electrolysis.
There is no electrolyte used; there is NO current admitted to the
water, in a proper system. No heating occurs in the water as it
produces gas. The gas produced is Hydroxy (aka HHO or "Brown's
Gas"), not differentiated Hydrogen and Oxygen; and all of the work
is performed by resonance and the voltage potential. As a result of
Ravi disclosing his gas flow test on Youtube.Com, intimidation
intended to interfere with his research resulted. Ravi was un lawfully
threatened. Continuing...
Stanley Allen Meyer Page 4 This
prompted public
action by the non profit organization and a reporting of this
incident to the authorities by us. Currently our subscribers keep a
public watch on Ravi's and the organizations actions. The public are
needed to assist in this task to stop energy suppression, please
subscribe to our news
letter.
Only consolidated in this task can we effectively prevent engineers
from being harassed and enable them to freely present free energy
research to the public. The Non profit organization Panacea-BOCAF
intends to support open source engineers working with the WFC and
other suppressed clean energy technologies. These engineers require
grants, resources, faculty recognition and security. All this can be
created! For those able to help this effort, please contactPanacea's proposed granted research and
development center. Contact
us. Ravi's version of "D14" used bigger 9" (inch) tubes
and a 9 tube set. This gave him a resulting lower input current of
0.51 Amps from the frequency generator. Given the efficiency reports
by Ravi this technology is an invaluable power management process
which the mainstream faculties must benefit from. As an emission
cutting device andpower savings device alone, this technology
justifies (and needs) law for its
mandatoryimplementation. The Non profit organization
Panacea-BOCAF intends to support open source engineers working with
the Meyers other suppressed clean energy technologies. These
engineers require grants, resources, faculty recognition and
security. All this can be created in Panacea's
proposed granted research and development center. For those able to help this effort,
please Contact
us.
Panacea's
Stanley Allen Meyer Page on Meyer's technology Description
Until further OPEN
SOURCE testing can be done, so far it is understood that there is
compound resonance present in the WFC (actually it is more of an
electrolyzer than a fuel cell). This compound resonance has so far
been evident in experimenter's cells. There is an electrical
resonance between the inductors (Resonant Charging Choke coils),
there is an electrical resonance within the electrode gap itself
within the water,and, finally, there is an acoustical resonance
between the cylindrical electrodes, which is somehow phase coupled
to the electrical resonances.The electrical resonance involves a
phase delay between the pulses to the electrodes, which has the
effect of inhibiting current flow into the cell; the acoustic
resonance may be producing a standing wave which inhibits ion
transport. Both of these contribute to dielectric breakdown in the
water, which is where electrons are ripped from the
water
(by voltage alone) and
as a result producing monatomic (browns gas) hydrogen in the
process. This concept and technology first surfaced in the 1990's,
individuals such Dr. Henry Puharich showed that by molecular
resonance the production of this gas are possible, as did Dr Yull
Brown hence the name Brown's gas. The reality of the hydrogen on
demand process became self evident with the emergence of the Stanley
Meyer's water fuel cell patent, which showed that conventional
electrolysis theory is incomplete and not the whole picture as
Stanley Meyer was able to create enough hydrogen out of the water to
run a car from as little as 13 volts and very little amperage.
Stan's efficiency's were calculated to be up to 1700%. Today this
pulsed resonant DC hydrogen on demand process is still currently
unknownand thought to be impossible by the mainstream
faculties. What mainstream faculties must realize is
that there is not one part of Water Fuel Cell operation which
resembles conventional electrolysis. Therefore the out
puts are not expected to resemble faraday's equations in any way.
(There is no electrolye; 2) There is NO current admitted to the
water, in a proper system; 3) No heating occurs in the water as it
produces gas; 4) The gas produced is Hydroxy (aka HHO or "Brown's
Gas"), not differentiated Hydrogen & Oxygen; and 5) All of the
work is performed by voltage potential alone. If you think how an
opera singer is able to split a 'memorex' glass with her voice, by
the pitch, volume, and frequency of sound waves, this is
aresonance with the glass and either splits, fractures or
cracks the glass. The simple way to explain what Stan Meyer is able
to do is he was using no current (ElectroStatic Voltage DC Feilds
plus DC Pulses added... 600cps 50% duty cycle with 42.8khz pulses
each half cycle) voltage @ resonant frequency.... instead of sound
to split the water from resonance created in the water by circuitry
and steel cylinders. It is understood that Stan harnessed the
voltage potential. There is still a lot of mainstream science doesn't
not yet have this in their curricula regarding voltage or electricity.
For example Tesla's Longitudinal and transverse
waves. Technically it is thought the gas results from an
electromagnetic deformation of the ionized water molecule to Hydroxy
(HHO), in which the Hydrogen atoms are bound magnetically, at less
than the 105 degrees separation classically attributed to H2O. This
results in a stronger magnetic polarization of the molecule, whereby
it also carries an additional electrical charge, and is recovered
upon combustion. The complete preciseness of the physical mechanism
involved is still not completely agreed upon today, however the
technology works. You can see this in certain industrial welding
equipment that use the unique properties of Brown's Gas. This has
been commercially available for over 25 years, removing all doubt as
to its existence. When the water fuel cell technology emerged In the
'90s, it was assumed by the energy suppressors, one would suppose,
that by murdering Yull Brown that Brown's Gas would [Stanley Allen Meyer Page 6]
disappear as a technical concept; or that with killing Stan Meyer
and Puharich, the WFC would 'dry up and blow away' They certainly
believed that if all THREE! Were out of the picture; the water fuel
issue would sink beneath the waves. There is no regulation at the
federal level committing grants and security into harboring the
manufacture of this suppressed alternative energy technology. The
current mandated laws do not prevent a corporate cartel based
influence from making or creating difficult economical or political
conditions to suppress this environmentally sound technology and
further harbor their own profit motives. They can also simply buy
the patent off the inventor and shelve it, there is no law
preventing them form this. Despite there currently being no
regulation and or social reforms into these matters, and these
murders the water fuel cell issue is very much alive and being
preserved today more then ever, this has only been able to be done
with the aid of open sources engineers, whom are part of a non
profit organization called Panacea-BOCAF. These engineers have
independently successfully replicated a version of the Meyers water
fuel cell from his patent and disclosed their results and
instructions open sourced on the organizations on Line University.
Why open sourced? Well, one can judge by history why this is the
only way. Examples can be seen in water fuel cell technology done by
an individual named Steve Ryan's who operates the Bios fuel
corporation, Steve presented a water powered motorcycle. In late
2005, there was a segment aired on the show "60 Minutes" in New
Zealand. This process may have used some sort of catalytic process
to turn the water into a usable fuel. When the non profit
organization recently asked Steve what happened to his technology,
he replied and I quote due to the current economic and political
conditions we are unable to bring you the water fuel cell technology
at this time. He now only sells a 50/50 mix of water and fuel.
Energy suppression does exist today, Stanley Meyer is thought to
have died of unknown food poisoning, other engineers with technology
have been removed also. Also recently the Xogen and black light
power cooperation both had working water fuel cell technologies,
plus 4 other companies have hydrogen on demand technologies,
including a very interesting effect patented by Prof. Kanarev, all
have not been able to publicly disseminate their technology. So
where does that leave the public, open sourced public disclosures:
Allow NO WAITING FOR SOME COMPANY TO GET A PATENT NO WAITING FOR
SOME MANUFACTURER TO GET PRODUCT OUT TO THE MASSES? NO SPECIAL
"HIDDEN COSTS" TO APPLY THE TECHNOLOGY! NO, "I CAN'T SHOW YOU
EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF INVESTORS" EXCUSES on the Electrostatic
Catastrophic Dissociation of HHO WFC VIC
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 7] NO WAY FOR
THIS TO BE HELD BACK FROM THE PUBLIC IN ANY WAY EXCEPT FOR
GETTING THE WORD OUT! NUMEROUS PROVEN REPLICATIONS AROUND THE
GLOBE!!!!! This replicated version of the Meyer's technology
can be done on-board motor vehicles with a small auxiliary
device powered by the vehicle's electrical system, in effect
allowing the use of water as fuel to act as a boost to the
internal combustion engine and improve MPG significantly. The
combustible gas mixture produced is generated as needed, and
not stored aboard the vehicle, making it possible to burn
ordinary water in any Internal Combustion Engine, Turbine,
Furnace, or Torch, processing it into fuel on- demand, in
real-time, without transportation or storage of compressed or
liquid Hydrogen, caustic alkalis, catalytic salts, or metal
hydrides. This process yields only water vapor as exhaust,
which may be easily recovered by means of a radiator/heat
exchanger, and re circulated in the engine system if desired.
This is available for any one to replicate now on our on line
university. The organization has hundreds of registered
engineers who are seeking grants; a host of other water fuel
cell engineers have begun to join a distributed research
initiative to deliver practical, public domain technologies to
the world in an Open Source environment. All are prepared to
collaborate in a resource grant based environment, as can be
by done in the non profit organizations proposed granted
research and development center, where a whole host of
other technologies can be produced, all of which are profiled
on the web site. Meyer's original performance levels were
reported to be has high as 1700% efficiency from creating
molecular resonant frequencies in water. Currently this water
fuel cell technology needs further investigation to reach that
level, and has allot of potential. Recently tests on the
replication of the Meyer's WTF cell also showed effects of
cold current electricity. What is cold current electricity; it
was used by E V GRAY
in his patented radiant energy motors, where he was able
to light up light bulb underwater using cold current
electricity.
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 8] Dave Lawton's
cold current electricity demo, all photos courtesy of
Dave (Thanks Dave!) E V GRAY, like
Meyers was also killed. We at panacea feel that the
granted research and development center is needed to
create social reform, as the public will know why its
there and what subject matter goes on there, the main
stream faculties can also benefit from the organizations
findings and research and development., but we need
grants to survive. In the Mean time, any experimenters
can replicate the open sourced findings of this and
other technologies which are made available on the
panacea online university. Replication
| Element |
Percentage
by Weight
Maximum Unless Range is Specified |
| |
304 |
304L |
304H |
| Carbon |
0.08 |
0.030 |
0.04-0.10 |
| Manganese |
2.00 |
2.00 |
2.00 |
| Phosphorus |
0.045 |
0.045 |
0.045 |
| Sulfur |
0.030 |
0.030 |
0.030 |
| Silicon |
0.75 |
0.75 |
0.75 |
| Chromium |
18.00
20.00 |
18.00
20.00 |
18.00
20.00 |
| Nickel |
8.0
10.50 |
8.0
12.00 |
8.0
10.5 |
| Nitrogen |
0.10 |
0.10 |
0.10 |
Data are typical and should not
be construed as maximum or minimum values for
specification or for final design. Data on any
particular piece of material may vary from those
shown herein.
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 9] To
achieve Ravi's efficiency, a strict selection and
preparation of stainless steel tubing is
important. The following parameters need to be
considered. (1) Choice of the grade of stainless
steel (2) Tube gap and Thickness / SWG / AWG of
tubes (3) Pre preparation and conditioning
[This sanding is typically done by hand or on a belt
sander using 60 or 80 grit sandpaper.]
Choice of the grade of stainless steel Stan
said he used T304 in line 52 of patent #
4936961. Ravi's choice was to use 316L seamless
pipes. Use ONLY SEAMLESS PIPES and not seam
welded. These tubes were annealed for 3 hours in
inert atmosphere of Argon to remove all residual
magnetism and cold work stresses before they were
assembled. Even Nitrogen can be used as the inert
atmosphere.
The tubes are annealed to get rid of the crystal
lattice imperfections induced due to cold work and
any traces of residual magnetism. They have to be
in bright finish only you don't want oxides of
nickel chromium or iron on the surface (more
details in preparation below). You can use most of
the 300 series Nickel-Chromium Steels but 316L
would be the most preferable and next would be
304L. Never go for 310 as this has the highest
resistivity among the 300 series. Avoid Inconel
grade (High Nickel Alloys) pipes as well due to
their high coefficient of resistance. Just between
316 and 316L there's a lot of difference in
resistivity of the material due to carbon
presence. Seam welds have magnetized seam lines
along the length of the tubes. You must have them
annealed after machining/cutting/sanding before
being assembled. If considering 316L stainless,
the slight increase in Molybdenum, Nickel and
Chromium would increase the Electric Specific
Resistance of the material ever so slightly, but
the thicknesses can offset this problem. One needs
to find out if there is any Aluminium content in
the grade. If the aluminum content is less than
0.5 Wt% or nil, you could use this if it is easily
available in seamless form and your required size.
The reason why you need to check for Aluminum
content is that it is used as a deoxidizer during
the melting and alloying process. So there is a
possibility of it remaining in trace amounts based
on the amount of O2 available in the bath for it
to turn to Alumina and float up in the slag.
Aluminum is the main component in Fe-Cr-Al alloys
which increases the electrical specific
resistance. Incase these manufacturers use Cerium
mischmetal or some other Rare Earths for
deoxidizing, we don't even need to consider Al.
The 316L seamless tubes Ravi used were sourced
from a retailer of Sandvik, Sweden'. Using
304
Stan
claimed he was using T-304 SS. As there is no
caustic electrolyte as such, is right to say that
304 grade s/s can be used. However, expect there
to be a good deal of brown gunk generated during
the conditioning process, with the additional part
coming from the 304 material. There are some
higher percentages of Ni and Cr in 316 and 2% of
Molybdenum. Some of the manufacturers use Cerium
Mischmetal (Rare earths) during the melting and
pouring operations and this is done in the more
expensive alloys like 316 to increase the hot life
and the surface layer strength and in case of
seamless tubes a little extra silicon is added for
free flow in hot condition (Hot Extrusion of
seamless tubes). All these put together add up to
different metallurgical properties of the material
in our case. When in hot condition the Rare
Earths, Silicon, Molybdenum tends to migrate
owards the surfaces of the metal and this helps in
the formation of a strong protective surface layer
(The reason why I said annealing was important).
SS 316L is the only SS that can be used in human
Medical Implants other than titanium, that's how
stable 316L grade is. In summary
-The best grade of SS to use is 316L. Next
preference is 316,304L and 304. L stands for Low
Carbon in the SS alloy. 316L composition: % Carbon
: 0.03 Manganese: 2.0 Phosphorous : 0.45 Sulphur :
0.03 max Silicon : 1.0 Chromium : 16 to 18 Nickel
: 12 to 14 Molybdenum : 2.0 to 3.0 Plain 316 SS
nickel range is 10 to 14% and carbon being 0.08%
304 SS has lesser % of Nickel and Chromium and
doesn't have Molybdenum at all. Tube gap and
Thickness / SWG / AWG of tubes Ravi's tubes
sizes used were: Outer Pipe OD : 25.317mm
Thickness : 14 SWG or 2.032mm ;Outer Pipe ID :
25.317mm - (2.032mm x2) = 21.253mm
Inner
Pipe OD : 19.930 mm ;left:334">Thickness : 14
SWG or 2.032 mm Gap is 1.323mm ( 21.253mm -
19.930mm ) This was adjusted to both the sides as
the inside pipe is centered is 1.323/2 = 0.6615 mm
on either sides of the inner tube. So effectively
the gap between the pipes is less than .670 mm.
Ravi went for a lesser gap by increasing the
thickness of the outer tube. Ravi had some
difficulty in the alignment of pipes as they were
shorting. He had to get them straightened on a
pipe alignment machine. Ravi does not suggest that
people without engineering skills go for this
small a gap, but is convinced that the higher
output of my setup could be due to this
smallgap. SWG stands for Standard Wire Guage
Suggestions are, you really don't want an outer
tube smaller than one inch, so that pushes us to
the 2 mm wall thickness. The inner diameter of a
25.4 mm tube 2 mm thick (14 SWG) is 21.4 mm, so
for a 1 mm gap, the inner tube needs to be 19 mm.
The outer diameter of a 3/4 inch tube is 19.05mm,
which would give a gap of 1.175 mm. For a 1.5 mm
gap, you would need an inner tube diameter of 17
mm.
If you
were to use the 1-inch 16 SWG (1.626mm), then it
is difficult to determine the exact wall
thickness, so you should check with the supplier.
In that case, a 20 mm inner tube would give 1.1 mm
(or 1.112 mm) and if the inner tube has a diameter
of 3/4 inch or 19.05 mm, it would give a gap of
1.575 mm (or 1.587 mm). Ravi suggests, Order for
an outer pipe of 1 inch (25.4mm) OD and a
thickness of 16SWG (1.6mm) and an inner tube of
20mm OD. This size should be available
commercially anywhere. With this you can get a gap
of 1.1mm.If youwant lesser gap than that just
increase the thickness to 14SWG (2.0mm), this
should give you a gap of 0.7mm but is very
difficult to align as the spacing is close.
Calculation: (Both setups have same tube
diameters) Dave's WFC: 6 tube of 5 inch length.
Considering the gas generating heights of 6 tubes
x 5 inches = 30 inches in length/height. Ravi's
WFC: 9 tubes of 9 inch length. That's an increased
reactive surface area of over 150% than Dave's.
Dave's and Stan's systems had a spacing of 1/16"
(1.5875mm). Ravi's pipes have a gap of less than
0.670mm (could be the main reason for the higher
efficiency in his unit). Dave
Lawtons Cell What
also must be taken into account is that Ravi is
using 9 tube sets of 9" length and the inner being
1/2" more than the outer for connections. Dave
used 6 tubes of length for his 300%
OU.
Stan's
were 9 tubes of 18 inch length on his
demonstration electrolyzer and in one of the
videos available. In Stan's version there are
claims that he's making 1700% OU over Faradays Law.
When compared to this efficiency Ravi states he
has some more work to do. However any OU is good
OU :). Tube holders You
Tube tutorial Jamie's Replication - Making of the
tube holders
Pre
preparation and conditioning Preparation of
the Tubes: IT IS ADVISED THAT POLISHED TUBES ARE
NOT TO BE USED IN MAKING THE WFC. If one is to use
them make sure they are not Nickel plated or Hard
Chrome plated pipes. If they are Plain SS 304L or
316L but polished you must use a sand paper on
them before hand. The brightness of your tubes
reflection is based on how small a grit of sand
paper you use. The tubes have been fixed to a
lathe and sanded with very fine grit paper to
remove any oxidation on the surface after
annealing of the pipes. The inner tubes need to be
sanded to remove all discoloration (oxides). Use
as small a grit to get fine scratches and when you
condition at low amps the bonding between the
white coat (explanation later) and the metal is
good. Do not try high amp conditioning
at the start as you want a thin fine layer on the
fresh metal. If you order large pipes and
cut them, you need to get the tubes annealed once
they are cut and finished to lengths before
being assembled. It's done in a separate inert
atmosphere furnace of Nitrogen or Argon. You
have people who do heat treatment or metals
they'll give you the procedure if you tell them
the grade you are using. Tell them that you
need a bright anneal in nitrogen or argon
atmosphere. Annealing is done after every cold
work operation and at the finishing stage to reset
the lattice structure. As we are cutting the pipes
and slightly finishing the surfaces with sand
paper to remove any imbedded impurities during
tube drawing, it's all cold working. So you need
to relieve these induced stresses in the lattice
through annealing. Ravi advises - Use an abrasive
cutter or a saw and then anneal them as you
induce a lot of stresses in the lattice during
cutting due to the hot and cold areas. If you use
laser then you could cut the annealed tubes as you
are not inducing any mechanical stresses during
the cutting but you could check along the
length with a compass and see if there's
any difference. Take a compass close to the tubes
and you can usuallysee it deflecting before
annealing but once the annealing is done the
deflection is a [Stanley Allen Meyer Page 15]fraction of
what you have seen before on the same tubes or
none at all, this is what youwant.Assembly
options- It appears that Dave Lawton used
insulated copper wire to connect to his tubes.
Ravi used spot welded stainless steel wire on his
tubes. Originally Ravi had his wires too long
which had a negative impact on his efficiency. He
then had to shorten them. 17342;left:115">Video
-New copper leads being connected by shortening
the length of previous leads
As per
Stan's Patent each inside tube is connected to an
individual variable resistance. He has 18 leads (
9 +ve and 9 -ve). Ravi has since advised that
copper leads covered with high temperature
automotive silicone sealant are better than SS
leads. The RTV silicone is to be applied only at
the exposed copper connecting the pipes and no
where else. Or alternatively, you can construct
the cell as seen from Panacea's endorsed
version.the hydrogen
shop"
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Another
construction option is illustrated in the
following isolated wire plexi glass design. If
using the sealed copper wire option, the ends of
the copper wire needs to be sealed with high
temperature heat resistant silicone sealant and
should not contact water, as this generates a lot
of greenish brown muck. Therefore put silicone
sealant or automotive gasket silicon sealant all
over it so that the water doesn't touch any of
these parts. Then use the sealant over the exposed
copper wire. For stainless steel lead in wire, the
thinner SS wire you use the higher the electric
resistance. If you use SS go for the thickest
possible leads you could weld. It is advised
toreduce the outside length of the wires as much
as possible to reduce resistance. Go for at least
3.0mm or higher to reduce the electrical
resistance. Panacea choose to spot wield stainless
steel wire onto our tubes. Our wires were 4mm
thick. DO NOT USE 316L AS LEAD WIRE THEY HAVE TOO
HIGH A SPECIFIC RESISTANCE TO BE USED AS LEADS
approximately 46.8 times that of copper. Incase
you want to introduce a resistance on the negative
lead (60a….to 60n in Stan's Patents) you could
always used a wire wound variable resistance. This
seems to have been the problem of leads heating
up. ;left:377">Specific Resistances:
;left:345">Copper : 1.63 MICROHM-cm 316 : 75
MICROHM-cmRavi chooses to use plastic tubing
around his wires only to avoid shorting of the
positive & negative leads. Ravi's cell showing
the plastic insulated SS wire. The SS wires act as
resistors. The specific resistance of 316L is
around 75 Micro-Ohm-cm and that of copper is 1.72
Micro-Ohm-cm. The leads heat up when higher amps
are drawn by the freq gen. I've replaced the leads
up to the bottom of the WFC with 4 Sq.mm double
insulated copper wire and the heat generation did
come down. When choosing clamps for your water
fuel cell. Always choose Stainless steel
Clamps,never choose galvanized clamps, If the
clamps rust then the nickel % is extremely less
for it to be used. Galvanized are basically Mild
Steel screws / clamps which are zinc plated. The
plating would come off in no time and you will
have brown muck all over. They have to be SS or
the brown muck would never stop. Extra clamps for
support are ok but have to be SS. 300 series
(302,304,306, 308, 310, 316) only and not 200 or
400 series. For spacing between the tubes any
nonconductive flexible material will do even the
speaker wire plastic covering will work with
this. 20194;left:211">Video
1: This video shows the innards of the WFC without
water ;left:0">
20479;left:118">Video
2: This video shows freshly filled Tap
Water. No
other impurities (Read no Salts or
Acids
or anything at all just plain tap water and not
distilled water) added. Additional
optionsIn one of Stans patents he talked about
using polyoxymethylene
(Derlin) which has a high
dielectric constant. He used Derlin on the outside
of the outer pipe and the inside of the inner pipe
to contain the electron leakage. The barrier
formed by the conditioning (explanation below)
coating has a comparatively lesser dielectric
constant than the Derlin material thickness used.
Also D14 originally talked about creating slots in
the outer pipes. This has not been confirmed yet,
and should be investigated further.
408">Conditioning Average time takes 4
weeks, based on Dave's and Ravi's reports. The
impurities in the water differ from place to
place. This makes a huge difference. You could see
this difference by using ground water and water
from streams and lakes which has been exposed to
sunlight. Ravi chooses to use tap water. Electrode
conditioning helps by providing an appropriate
insulating layer on the electrodes and that helps
to lower useless current leakage through the
water. Check
this
video.
You can see the confirmation of non conductivity
of the layer formed. The
white
insulating coating formed during conditioning is
non conductive in between the tubes (pipe gap) so
you need to take it for granted that the process
is basically dielectric breakdown of the bonds.
The initial conditioning is very important. Ravi
recommends to only using the following process
described. DO NOT GO ABOUT CONDITIONING WITH
HIGH AMPS ONLY AS YOU'LL ENDUP HAVING A
WEAKLY BONDED COAT ON YOUR NEGATIVE TUBES. LOW
AMP CONDITIONING IN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR
PROPER BONDING OF LAYERS TO THE BASE METAL and
the previous layers. The bond strength
of the layer can be increased further as after
every cycle of conditioning. You need to stop for
an hour at least. During this period you can
let the pipes air dry after every full
cycle. This compacts the layer even more due
to the loss of moisture from the surface. Then
change the water and go about the next
conditioning cycle. Never touch the layer till it
dries up completely. Ravi's procedure
originally given to him by Dave Lawton:
1. Do not use any resistance on the negative
side when conditioning the pipes. 2.
Start at 0.5 Amps on freq gen and switch off after
25 minutes and stop for 30 minutes
3.
Go to 1.0 Amps for 20 min and stop for 30
min 4. Go to 1.5 Amps for 15 min and
stop for 20 min 5. Go to 2.0 Amps for
10 min and stop for 20 min 6. Go to
2.5 Amps for 5 min and stop for 15 min
7. Go to 3.0 Amps for 120 to 150 seconds.
You will then need to check if WFC is
getting hot, if it does you need to
reduce the time. AFTER THE 7 STEPS ABOVE
LET THE WFC STAND FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR BEFORE YOU
START ALL OVER AGAIN. You would hardly see any gas
generation at the beginning and it makes a lot of
brown muck. It took Ravi and Dave about one month
before the brown muck disappeared.
Brown
muck produced Change
the water after every cycle initially. DONOT
touch the tubes with bare hands if the tube
ends need to be cleaned of muck use a brush but do
not touch!! Ravi's experience showed that
leaving the brown muck in water for the next cycle
goes on to heat up the water and you need to avoid
this. Over a period of time you will see a
reduction in generation of the brown stuff. When
the muck is reduced you should see a gradual
decrease in the Amp draw for the same amount of
generation. An artist painting brush would be
perfect to clean the tube ends during and after
conditioning. When you are conditioning you don't
need to connect the VIC -voltage intensifier
circuit (Toroid + Inductors). Eventually the pipes
will not produce any brown stuff at all. At this
point you should now have a very good generation
of gas. You will get a whitish powdery coat on the
surfaces. Never touch the pipes with bare hands
once this comes on.
A
white insulation coating formed on the negative
DO THE
CONDITIONING IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA OR
PREFERRABLY CLOSE THE TOP AND VENT THE GAS OUT IN
THE OPEN. AS THE WFC IS LEFT ON FOR QUITE SOMETIME
EVEN SMALL AMOUNT OF GENERATION CAN GET
ACCUMULATED IN A CONSTRICTED SPACE AND COULD BE A
HAZARD. The above process is to be done after
annealing the pipes. See to it that no oxide
formation is left on the pipe and use a detergent
to wash off the pipes and rinse them thoroughly
with fresh water. Then assemble the setup
including the leads and base. Finally flush the
pipes with lots of fresh water do not touch the
pipes with bare hands after this.
Aaron's
video explaining about the non conductive
Layer When
the power is switched on you see bubble formation
on the external surfaces of the outer tubes just
like in the video. This happens all along during
the conditioning process. Ravi states he remembers
Dave saying that you know the tubes are
conditioned when these bubbles stop forming on the
external tube surfaces and you see a white powdery
coat on the tubes. Ravi went on conditioning even
after that and ended up with larger bubbles. 0Ravi
states it is critical that people follow the
conditioning procedure as you get very uneven coat
formation on the surface if you use High Amps for
long periods. When you go above 3 Amps there's a
possibility of the coating flaking off. The
bonding between layers would not be that strong.
These layers form one over the other after every
cycle of conditioning. The small time high Amp
conditioning gives you an uneven coat and the long
time low Amp conditioning evens out this more or
less. The longer you use Low Amp conditioning the
better the end outputs! Ravi has also used 0.2
amps for low amp conditioning. This is ideal how
ever time consuming. If you do the procedure
described above and still wish too build up a
better coat afterwards then you can use the 0.2
amp conditioning process afterwards.
A lot
of people have been asking what the conditioning
coat of Ravi looks like plus why they shouldn't
touch and why it can't be dismantled and
reassembled. Check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leAtiaCygng
WFC
Circuits Alternator
Stevie's
Unit For
some there may be more losses in the alternator
than the solid state version. The original
alternator schematic will be included. It is
recommended you use the solid state version and
get it working first. The alternator was only done
by Dave to mimic the car's operation in Stan's
technology.
Bifilar
Inductors Test
One
needs to experiment and search for superior
circuitry as Stan Meyer did. Stan had a better
circuit which he never disclosed - the UK TV
documentary states that Stan would not even let
them point a camera at his more advanced cell. The
inductors were actually part of the VIC. Dave had
used the exact specs (100 turns, wire dia, etc) of
the inductors mentioned in Stan's US Pat 4936961.
Then Ravi had later added the toroid and the diode
as per the VIC which increased the efficiency
compared to using only the inductors. Ravi had not
used the variable inductor mentioned in the
patent. His were wire wound like the ones
mentioned in the old D14, pg7.
Ravi
states "The inductor on both positive and negative
is a must. I've made it on a Ferrite rod
of 25 mm length 100 turns of Double Enameled
Electrolytic Copper (99.99%) of 22 SWG
(0.711mm dia)" which was what Dave suggested."
You will notice an increase in gas generation when
the bifilars are connected. Try with one in the
beginning if it heats up increase the number of
inductors.
Ravi
used 9 individual bifilar wound inductors for 9
tubes with 22SWG magnet wires. The inductors and
the toroid (Part of the VIC) do heat up after a
while and the efficiency comes down this happens
due to the temperature coefficient of resistance
of copper. So the answer to this problem would be
to use bigger inductors and toroids and thicker
wires. Voltage intensifier
circuit
The
VIC specs give as per patent 4936961 in Stanley Allen Meyer Page 6 of
the toroid size would probably be OK for a very
small setup but may be not for the lengths and the
numbers Ravi is using. Stan gave a basic idea of
how it should be but we need to figure out the
specs for our own build sizes. My WFC is not a
done thing its still in an evolutionary stage and
lot of combinations with the inductors are yet to
be tried out. The VIC basically needs a toroidal
core and a 600V 40A metal diode with a heat sink.
The specs of wire sizes and turns are in Stans US
pat 4936961. He has a variable inductor in the
patent on the -ve side but what Ravi has is a
regular inductor, two of them one on positive and
one on negative. Ravi states he would not suggest
using bifilars as inductors as they ended up
shorting three of the tubes. The 100 ohm 0.25W
resistors were replaced with 100 ohm 0.5W as 0.25W
kept burning out. The bifilar inductors are wound
on ferrite cores using the recommended turns
stated in the original D14 document. When using
Ravi's version, you must use the diode to cut out
the back EMF, Ravi states that this is very
important! And is what gives you huge
generation, this part is not mentioned by Dave or
in D14. You end up getting all the juice from the
system only if your tubes are conditioned
enough. 30697This
video shows the
higher output is all to do with the inductors
mentioned in the D14 circuit
and conditioning and slightly through the
resistance wire to reduce the current draw. Even
without the resistance you can get the same output
but another 0.3 to 0.6 amps extra but I feel this
could be offset by making a bigger inductor. Just
go on conditioning and keep reducing the amp draw
to the WFC gradually and the generation would kind
of remain the same even at very low Amps. Once you
condition the tubes your generation will
dramatically increase and the current required
will fall by leaps. It took Ravi almost 3 months
approximately to reach these
outputs.
Above
is a picture of the multiple bifilars Ravi tried
on the WFC. These were connected to each pipe
individually. Diode used 1200 V 40 Amps. Solid
core length 8" wound with .711mm conductor end to
end. The generation increased by approximately
another 10cc of gas for a 20 second period
compared to regular wound inductors. This works on
efficiency!! Need to try out other combos to
see if it can increase some more.
Variable
resistors Ravi also experimented with using
Nichrome 80/20 Resistance Alloy wire in 1.6 mm
diameter as the variable resistor. This has
resistance of 0.52 Ohms/mt. The efficiency of the
cell comes down initially. Ravi states that "if I
dont use it for about three to four days but about
ten to fifteen minutes after its switched on it
gets back to the higher efficiencies". If you
go through Stan's patent 4,798,661 on page 2 Figure
1, these variable resistors are designated by the
numbers 60a to 60n which are individually
connected to each of the inner tubes. Ravi has not
tried the immersed exciter array in figure 1 this
could probably increase the efficiency even more!
Connecting the unit to an ICE The main
reason why Ravi wanted to free source this process
was to be used for vehicles as this unit cannot /
would not be allowed to be sold commercially as it
can give you at least 50% gain in mileage! This
would reduce the world's automobile pollution
problem drastically. Power generation through an
ICE is not that feasible due
to the
high wear pertaining to automobile engines when
used continuously for months together. As per
Ravi's calculations the engine needs a re-bore
every two months if used continuously!!. So the
only viable alternative is to use in small
Turbines. For backup gensets, IC Engines could be
OK. When connecting to an ICE there are a lot of
minor to major modifications and tune ups need to
be done depending on the engine type and year of
make. Video
3: This video is after the top is sealed and with
an input of 0.5 Amps from
the Frequency Generator.
33763;left:373">Frequency
Generator All Photo's Supplied by http://www.vptechno.com/
Front
view
Rear
view
Panacea's
first test cell Variable
inductor Ravi is trying some variable inductor
Concepts.
Faculty
information Solid
state version Ravi advises that if the FETS in
your signal generator are blowing, the best option
would be to alienate the freq gen by introducing
the VIC in between. Go through Stan's USPat
4936961 for the construction details of the VIC.
All that is required are the inductors and a
torroid to be wound as per the patent. Ravi states
to use larger diameter wires and a larger torroid
to avoid heating up of the windings. Also use a
high speed 600-1200V 40 Amp diode in between the
positive of the inductor and the toroid's secondary.
Problem solved!
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 34] Originally
Dave's 100 turn inductors were actually made from
this VIC description. He did only the inductors
and left out the torroidal and the diode. The
torroid is the one that isolates the frequency
generator and steps up the voltage. Ravi reports
that he has already tested it and it improved the
gas generation even more. Faraday
calculationsCalculating 2.4 Watts x 1 hour
long applied / liter. 2.4 Watt hours of energy per
Liter. That's multiplied with the hour not divided
by the hour. Volts x Amps = Watts 12 x 0.51 = 6.12
watts The generation is around 7 cc/sec of H2 + O2
This converts to 4.66 CC of H2/sec which converts
to 16.776 Lits / hour 16.776 x 2.4 watts
(Faraday/lit/hour generation) = 40.262 Watts. Ravi
seems to be generating the equivalent of 40.2
watts as per Faraday with just 6.12 Watts. This
would mean he is generating 550% excess as the
above works out to 40.2/6.12 x 100 = 656.86%
656.86 - 100 (Faraday) = 556.86% Over Unity !!
Presently the approximate volumetric gas discharge by an
inverted measuring flask is given below:
INPUT--H2+O2 cc/sec---H2 only cc/sec---H2 Liter/hr
0.5
A-----7.00--------------4.66-------------16.776
1.0
A-----8.66--------------5.78-------------20.808
1.5
A-----11.66-------------7.78-------------28.008
2.0
A-----14.00-------------9.33-------------33.588
3.0
A-----16.36------------10.91-------------39.276
4.0
A-----18.00------------12.00-------------43.200
H2+O2 was calculated on an average basis for
collection time of 30 secs. I'm not very sure of H2
and O2 volumes as I've calculated H2 as 2/3rd the
volume of the total and O2 as 1/3rd the volume.
Incase im wrong please do let me know how to
calculate these. Video
of Gas flow test The
gas collected was over 150CC could be 160 / 165CC.
As some might say that there could be Steam /
Vapour / Mist lets just take the output as 150CC
in 20 Secs. This comes to 7.5CC of gas/Sec at
0.48A - 0.50A. Last I checked with the old leads
was 7.0CC gas without any thing removed from the
generation.
This
video shows
the voltage input and the amps in both digital and
analogue meters. One
part of the pulse circuit was switched off (left
side 555 in the D14 with the switch on pin 3) and
you can see that the current draw is over four
fold. Conditioning The conditioning time
was pretty long. The surface forms a layer of
Nickel oxides along with Chromium oxide as well
and in the case of 316L you have @ 2% Molybdenum
in the SS alloy but you could be right about the
Cr oxides acting as a dielectric. Nickel
passivates in air and forms oxides like Zinc in
galvanised form. Example: incase you need to
electroplate on nickel you need to reactivate the
surface layer before the plating process or the
plated layer just peels off. The initial
conditioning is very very important and I
recommend to use the process I posted as with
lesser Amps you form a thin fine grain layer and
once you increase the Amps the grain size of the
deposition layer increases. The bigger grains can
come off the surface easily...so once you do this
you go back to the longer time low Amp
conditioning in the process I posted...this again
reinforces the larger grains deposited during the
high Amp conditioning to bond to the base /
previous layer. have never posted this info before
but this is the reason why different Amp levels
are used in the process. I have to give the reasoning
for the low Amp conditioning as a lotof replications seem to be
taking the short cut method of conditioning at high Amps
to save time. PLEASE DO NOT GO ABOUT CONDITIONING WITH HIGH AMPS
ONLY AS YOU'LL END UP HAVING A WEAKLY BONDED COAT.
LOW AMP CONDITIONING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR PROPER BONDING OF LAYERS TO THE BASE METAL
And the previous layers. FOLLOW THE POSTED PROCEDURE.
Its a time consuming process but worth the effort.
The bond strength of the layer can be increased further
as after every cycle of conditioning you need to stop for at least an hour.
During this period you can let the pipes air dry only after every cycle
...this compacts the layer even more due to the loss of moisture from the surface...
then change water and go about the conditioning cycle.
Never touch the layer till it dries up completely.
http://www.mtaonline.net/hheffner/GlowExper.pdf
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/GlowExper.pdf
Ravzz
states- IT DESCRIBES WHAT REACTIONS HAPPEN DUE TO
CONDITIONING!! IT SAYS THIS CONDITIONING COAT FORMS
IN WATER WITH NICKEL.....WELL SS316L HAS THE MOST
AMOUNT OF NICKEL IN THE 300 SERIES! This even
confirms the reason why there is a glow in the WFC
and even confirms that it can be seen only when
its dark...and that's what I had seen. It now looks like
this is the key to what happens during and due to
conditioning.
[Stanley Meyer Page 36]
The doc even talks aboout cold fusion taking place in the cell
.....and over unity due to the conditioned coat!!
These docs should put an end to the reason why conditioning
is so important and why the step conditioning
needs to be followed. http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/BlueAEH.pdf
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/GlowExper.pdf
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/OrangeGlow.pdf
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Key2Free.pdf
The
following may be related, could the plasma version
of the "diode effect" mentioned in papers
previously mentionedabove.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rUHeBPBzca0
Additional
options Using
Delrin
Stanley Allen Meyer Page 37In one
of Stan's patents he talked about using polyoxymethylene
(Delrin) which has a high
dielectric constant. He used Delrin on the outside
of the outer pipe and the inside of the inner pipe
to contain the electron leakage. The barrier
formed by the conditioning coating has a
comparatively lesser dielectric constant than the
Derlin material thickness used. Slots cut into
the outer pipesThe picture below clearly shows
there are slots in Stanley Meyers tubes, light can
be seen though the slots eliminating the
possibility of it being spacers. A Rectangular
slot cut in the top of each tube can clearly be
seen.
Stan's cell in operation. The scene is taken from a
documentary on Meyers Since
we are dealing with an acoustic resonance it makes
sense to create slots in the positive of the tubes
to help mimic the resonant frequency of the
negative tubes. It is not known for sure why Stan
did this at this time. Please consult the original
D14 document for more background info.
WFC by
spike The
original D14 document described a way to create
the same resonant pitch when constructing. Please
consult the original D14 document. An engineer has
contacted Panacea and offers the following advice.
Message: I have duplicated Stan Meyer's work, and
have taken it several steps forward. First, during
assembly of the generator, I have found that you
must tune the tubes to the same pitch. I do it
with a simple guitar tuner. Just clip it to the
tube and strike it with a small brass (to prevent
polarization) hammer. The easiest way to change
the pitch, it's always the outside tube, grind a
notch in it like Stan did. Second, oscillate it
with high voltage, low amperage voltage. Water
resonates at 926khz, and will disassociate at that
range. Before conditioning the generator, briefly
dry modulate it in 5 second bursts, with about 2
min between bursts for about 10 min. You should be
able to hear it hum,and with a practice ear, tell
if one set is out of pitch. I also added a toroid
coil, to produce parahydrogen. Tube size is
determined by the diameter of the cell, be it 4,
5, or 6 but the optimum gap between tubes should
remain .045 to .060. Try to maintain the low side.
You are correct, in that it takes at LEAST 2 to 3
months to condition your tubes. I don't add the
toroid until final assembly, and try to maintain a
1/8' gap from the top of the tubes to the toroid.
I am currently running 70psi in the generator.
-End Cold Current Circuit If you are
experimenting with the cold current circuit, and
wish to alter the values of the circuit components
for example the capacitors.Please keep the
following in mind. Ignoring some relatively minor
construction features, capacitors are all the
same. They act as a reservoir for electrons. If
you have a lot of electrons like in a power
supply, then you need big capacitors - the bigger
the better. If you are passing low frequency AC
through a capacitor, then when the signal is high,
electrons will flow into the capacitor. When the
signal goes low, those same electrons will flow
back out. You need to make [Stanley Allen Meyer Page 39] sure that the
storage capacity inside the capacitor is big
enough to handle the current flowing in and out.
If the frequency is high, then the signal is only
high for a very short time and so not much storage
capacity is needed. Consequently, high frequency
capacitors can be very small in size. BUT if the
capacitor is high quality and has low leakage as a
component, then a large capacitor can do the job
at high frequency just as well (though it is
physically bigger, heavier and more expensive) -
just common sense really. When used in a timing or
oscillator circuit, small capacitors fill up
faster and as the circuit switches over when the
capacitor is full, the generated frequency is
higher. The rate of current flow into a capacitor
is controlled by the size of the resistor feeding
it - the higher the resistor value, the lower the
current flowing through it, the slower the
capacitor charges up, the lower the frequency of
the oscillator. You will see this in, say, Dave
Lawton's circuit where the frequency range is
selected by switching a larger capacitor into the
circuit to get a lower frequency. 47, 10 and 1
microfarad for slow, medium and fast gating while
the high frequency oscillator which is being gated
has 0.22, 0.1 and 0.01 microfarad capacitors
giving a very much higher frequency. (The old
version was drawn with the switches operating in
opposite directions).There is lots of scope for
variations, but typically, 10 microfarad
capacitors are for switching in the 10 Hz or lower
region, 0.1 to 1 microfarad for high audio
frequencies, and 0.01 or smaller for ultrasonic or
radio frequencies. A third party has confirmed
that after speaking to Dave Lawton on the phone
he expressed the opinion that the size
of the capacitors was not particularly important
as the frequency was high. Dave was
doubtful about that and said that the bulb lit
better the larger the capacitor was. So, although
some may see no logic for it at all, it is better
to go with very large capacitors. Note –on the
circuit it looks as it is a DCcap. There is no
such thing as "an AC capacitor" or "a DC
capacitor" there are just "capacitors". They are
all the same, with the slight exception of
manufacturing differences in the materials used.
Tantalum has minimal leakage and can hold their
charge for days on end, but they don't go above 1
mF in capacity. Electrolytic capacitors can have
massive capacities but their leakage can be
massive with the charge bleeding off rapidly from
really big ones. So there is no AC or DC
capacitors, just "capacitors" and any of them can
be used for any application. Low capacitances
can't handle low frequencies properly as they fill
up long before the waveform has returned to zero,
so the waveform gets chopped off and highly
distorted. By showing the capacitors that Dave
used, without making it clear that he used those
capacitors as they happened to be sitting on his
bench at the time he was experimenting with the
circuit. It is highly likely that any electrolytic
capacitor will work in that position. Just whack
one in and see if it works well. A
'common-or-garden' 1000 mF [Stanley Allen Meyer Page 40] would
probably do very well - just try whatever is to
hand. It is definitely NOT the case that Dave
tested lots of capacitors and found that the only
ones that worked were the ones shown in the
circuit.Analogy of the cold current circuit by
Tao Meyer's EEC circuit layouts compared to
Lawton's recently posted EEC circuit that he is
using to power that light bulb, among other loads.
In the first image, Meyer's simple EEC is shown.
In this setup, the 'amp consuming device' is
analogous to Lawton's light bulb. When the water
in the WFC is being split, electrons are dislodged
from the water and as successive positive pulses
happen the electrons are effectively 'sucked up'
by the amp consuming device. So, there are
electrons in the water free, and when a positive
pulse comes, the electrons move to the right
electrode and move through the 'amp consuming
device'.In the second image, Meyer upgraded his
setup and included a triggering mechanism whereby
he can choose when he applies the positive pulses
to the 'amp consuming device'. So Meyer could send
some pulses to the WFC plates and split up the
water,
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 41]
then he could trigger the switch and
send pulses to the 'amp consuming device'whereby
the electrons from the water would flow through
it. Lawton on the other hand, has modified
Meyer's EEC a bit with the addition of those
extra high capacity caps. These caps would, by
thinking about it, charge up via the continued
HV pulses that are being applied to the WFC,
analogous to a Bedini type setup. The electrons
would then move to and from the caps and cause
fluctuating current to hit the bridge rectifier
and power his load. All in all, it seems there
can be many different ways to implement the
EEC.Insertion of a laser into the resonance
cavity in Stanley Myers' research papers, is the
insertion of a laser into the cavity, injecting
certain light frequencies into the cavity to
assist in the fracturing process. This would be
done by using a cell with cavity placements for
high frequency light-emitting diodes in the area
of 395 nm wave length. This cell would be
conditioned, prepared and coils wound to suit.
After the conditioning process the cell would be
finally tested with light-emitting diodes.
Annealing by Rick To understand this, you
must first understand the manufacturing process.
You are talking about "drawn" pipes, or tubing,
which refers to the manufacturing process of
seamless pipe or tubing. To simplify, let's
assume that it is actually pipe. During the
manufacturing process, the metal for the pipe is
first formed into a solid billet (a solid metal
casting) of cylindrical shape. The billet is
then "drawn" (pulled) over a piercing rod, which
results in the hollow core of the pipe. You can
just imagine the stress that occurs to the metal
during this forming process. If left in this
state, the stress points can become hairline
fractures that will spread and grow larger,
especially if the pipe is heated and/or cooled
during use, or subjected to high pressures, and
of course that would eventually lead to failure.
Seamless pipe is normally chosen by fabricators
because of its superior strength as compared to
seamed pipe, and therefore most seamless pipe
does pass through an annealing process.
Annealing is a process whereby the formed pipe
is heat treated by placing it in a special oven,
at a closely regulated temperature, for an
extended duration of time. This heating relaxes
the metal to relieve the stress points. After
annealing, some impurities will have risen to
the surface, and the metal will appear somewhat
discolored. High quality stainless, or other
smooth surface metal piping, would have its
surface ground and then polished with special
equipment. So unless you manufactured the pipes
yourself, there's a good chance that they may
already have been annealed. Check with the
manufacturer if you are not certain. The author
of the article which you quoted probably
purchased annealed, but unfinished pipe, and
therefore was sanding the pipe on a lathe, with
fine emery paper, to obtain a surface
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 42]similar to manufacturer polishing.
Incidentally, FYI, pipe sizes refer to the
inside diameter of the pipe, while tubing sizes
refer to the outside diameter. You probably
already know that, but I thought I would point
that out because the terminology is often
confused or misused. It is interesting to me to
note that some people believe that Stan Meyer
actually may have tuned his pipes by slotting
them at the top, as is done in tuning some types
of organ pipes. While pipes in water would not
generate the same tones or harmonics that they
do in air, the technique could be useful in
manipulating resonance, and the degree of
harmonic distortion produced, and this could
have a considerable effect on the end results of
Hydrogen production. I see that you are still
just slightly confused and may need some further
clarification. Ravi is right in saying that
metal cutting can induce new stress points, and
that is particularly true when the cutting
method produces a significant amount of rapid
heat buildup, such as when using a cutoff disc.
Stainless pipes are difficult to cut, and thus
are very susceptible to heat buildup unless you
go very slow and use an abundance of coolant. I
would suggest that anyone building a tube or
pipe project order their material laser precut
to the desired length. That will save work,
time, and expense. If you purchase precut and
polished ss pipes, you only need to sand the
inner surfaces of the larger pipes, and the
outer surfaces of the smaller pipes that go
inside the larger ones. These are the active
surfaces, and sanding them has a positive effect
on HHO generation. If you have pipe that has
just come from an annealing process, you need to
sand it on all surfaces to remove glazing and
impurities. Sanding itself is not ordinarily a
stress producing procedure, unless done dry at
high speed on a lathe, which would tend to
produce considerable rapid heating in the
metal's surface area. It is best to use wet
sanding techniques, and work slowly to keep
things cool. Failed R and DRavzz-I felt
it would be better to document these before
others waste their time doing the same again.
Pancake Bifilar was made from 1.626mm super
enameled magnet wire. The really long inductors
you see there are of rusted soft iron pipes
filled with ferrite powder.......they didn't
work as expected nor did the pancake bifilar.
(304 SS only)
AnomaliesDave
mentioned that is some glow in the dark. Ravi
checked it in pitch dark and there is some kind
of orange glow coming from the bottom of the WFC
but can't make out exactly from where. He tried
taking pictures s but didn't work they got all
pixilated. Recently we have found a possible
explanation for it, this explanation is
contained in the conditioning documents. –End
A
closing Message from Ravzz
Regarding
the recent findings: Published on Monday, January
11, 2009 by h2o0il.com Meltdown In The Arctic Is Speeding
Up Scientists warn that the North
Pole could
be free of ice in just five years' time instead
of 60. HYDROGEN GENERATOR STANLEY MEYER FUEL CELL WFC VIC HHO
[Stanley Allen Meyer Page 44]
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Quote-
SIT UP AND NOTICE PEOPLE! Its time people
noticed that everything is not hunky
dory! turning a blind eye and expecting
others to do what ever is required
wouldn't work any more......
politicians and self centered businesses are the
root cause for not taking steps to
slow down Global Warming if not prevent it! It
saddens me that they don't even
realize that they're screwing up their and their
own children's future by not doing
much. Politicians are snoozing
over the environmental impacts for Economics and
petty politicking and favoring
vested interests to bring out reforms to reduce
the global implications. The
people WHO ARE MONITORING THE BOARDS FOR WRONG
REASONS should consider that, we
are trying to secure a survivable future for
them, their children &
grandchildren as well...all that we are trying
to do is to clean the air we breathe....
its time they introspect their
intentions as to what they might do with all the
$$ when they can't even breathe
fresh air! The $$ would just be rotten paper
then that can't even buy them
health! Yes it hits me like a brick in the face
and hurts that enough is NOT being
done by the people who could actually take
decisions to change the course !
Ravzz " Panacea Endorsed Supplier of
cells and components
"Please Search This"
http://www.thehydrogenshop.com/
http://www.courtiestown.co.uk/batteries/shop.htm
Metal
supplies http://www.speedymetals.com/-
http://www.onlinemetals.com/
Tubing
http://www.sisweb.com/vacuum/sis/steelhos.htm
http://www.harvel.com/piping-clear-pvc.asp
Related
Links http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm
http://waterfuel.t35.com/wf_meyer_ravi.html
http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/browse/srawofni/33693
or
http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/browse/waterfuel/42765
(Plans
and related info in the above links) Related
Ravi Technical discussion
http://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1602
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3079.0.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy
Videos
Ravi's
Youtube Channel: Credits:
The
open source energy community. If you are able to
contribute to this document in ANY way, IE-
replication details, faculty info and or
additional data please contact the non profit
organization. http://www.panacea-
bocaf.org/
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/
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Another Meyer Video copy is in the Internet Archive
Samuel Freedman,1957 Patent Expires: Cheap Metal Alloy Converts water to gases without energy usage!
